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Vapes are obviously less harmful than paper cigarettes, but why do people boycott vapes? I have been smoking vape for 3 years, and I feel it is much less harmful than real cigarettes, but many people say that vape is more harmful.

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A simple calculation shows that there is a gap of dozens of times between the mass production cost and selling price of national standard vape cartridges. What do you think?
Nicotine: The online price of 97% to 100% nicotine in foreign countries is 1000mg/mL, 1L/bottle, containing 1000000mg nicotine, priced at US$300. Approximately 2190 RMB.
Can make 20,000 cigarette cartridges. Glycerin: 500ml, 20 RMB, flavoring: how much do you think you will put? Let’s assume that the cost of nicotine in each cartridge is the same as the cost of flavor.
The cost of each 2ml cigarette cartridge is as follows:
1: Nicotine (50mg) + flavor: 0.2 yuan
2: Glycerin: 0.08 yuan
3: Mass production price of magazine and ceramic heating core: less than 1.5 yuan (if individual customers purchase more than 10,000 yuan in bulk, I guess around 2.5 yuan, because I saw a price listed on a commonly used foreign trade purchasing website at 5 yuan/set, MOQ100, but mass production Starting from at least 1 million sets, the volume is increased to 10,000 times, and the price is reduced from 5 yuan for MOQ100 to 1.5 yuan. Isn’t it too much?)
Total cost: 1.78 yuan/1 finished cigarette cartridge. National standard cigarette cartridges are priced at 118 and 138/3 pieces (a box), 39.3 and 46 each.
Do you think the national team is responsible for your health by killing other e-cigarette or vape manufacturers? How about you take a look at the selling price and cost? Do you think tobacco taxes are something you, the average person, can touch? Just like ancient salt, anyone who messes with it will be beheaded.

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I won’t talk about the problem, I’ll just talk about what I know

1. I saw someone talking about the fact that vape juice is artificially synthesized, while tobacco leaves are naturally formed, so most people think that artificial synthesis is more harmful. I am confused about this. Tobacco leaves themselves contain nicotine, which is understandable. After all, nicotine is the only There will be addiction. So, smokers are only getting nicotine when smoking, and the carbon monoxide and other particulate matter produced when burning tar and other substances are not what smokers need. So why doesn't the government find a way to remove these substances? Let cigarettes only serve as a medium to obtain nicotine? Regardless of whether sales can increase, at least it can make smokers smoke healthier, right? We all know that tobacco taxes basically covered half of the sky when China was developing, so cigarettes were only state-owned and controlled by the government, thereby increasing the profits. However, removing harmful impurities from tobacco leaves will not be of any benefit to the government. If it is not done well, it will also affect the sales of cigarettes. It will increase the cost but not increase the sales. This is something that no businessman will do. So this idea is just an idea, because the hospital can make secondary profits from the diseases caused by cigarettes, and then use the money for development and economy, military research, etc., and it will also give smokers a sense of pride, and at the same time, it will also be used in packaging The same words were written on them. The so-called kill three birds with one stone. On the contrary, I know more about a certain moment. From the early tobacco mint with 5% nicotine to the fruity 3% nicotine, and later the 1.55% to 0% nicotine, people have spent money to do it, so that People who want to quit smoking can gradually get rid of their dependence on nicotine. Even if the market effect is not good, private companies must consider the benefits. Regardless of the outcome, everyone was allowed to see the process. As for the results, it is not something that individuals or manufacturers can control. After all, even the government has not done this. The artificial formula at least allows you to feel the body's reaction after quitting cigarettes. It is enough for these users to understand whether it is easier than when smoking cigarettes.

2. It is said that some minors will buy vapes, so vapes cannot be sold, and there should be no such thing. I want to say that if there is no vape, will it affect his spending money to buy cigarettes and smoke cigarettes? If not, why should vape be blamed?

Vape wants to be a market for adults. It was originally a market for people who smoke. Minors are just accidents, so vape will have strict regulations on this area to control businesses and prevent them from selling to minors. At least this is what I think. It does better than the Tobacco Bureau. Maybe you have seen children helping their parents buy cigarettes, but you have rarely seen children helping their parents buy cigarette cartridges, because users can directly contact the merchants and have the products delivered to the users via flash delivery, and children are not asked to help at all. The market for adults is already sufficient for businesses, so why would they take the risk to sell to minors? Doesn’t he know that he will lose more than he earns?

3. Why can minors buy vapes? Let’s first exclude online micro-businessmen and unscrupulous merchants, because there are also micro-businessmen and unscrupulous merchants who sell cigarettes even though they know it. I know that Momo has a strict real-name authentication system for minors. Users must first enter their mobile phone number, name, identity authentication number, and face video to pass the authentication. Just sell it. At least the government didn’t do this, and the Tobacco Bureau didn’t do it. But to a certain extent, if I touch your cake and you have these requests from me, I will just do it. However, if minors cannot buy it, they can ask adults to help them buy it. This method cannot be solved at all whether it is vape or cigarettes unless purchase restrictions are imposed. After all, people won’t be stupid enough to tell you that I bought it for a minor, so you can sell it to me. So unless purchases are restricted, this is the reality.

4. Minors use vape. If the merchant did it intentionally or failed to control it properly, then it is understandable that he should be punished. But if your child has tried his best to buy a vape legally, shouldn’t you think about your child’s education? Instead of simply blaming this product for not existing. Have you forgotten that you went through all the trouble to buy cigarettes? Or is it that the merchant directly sells cigarettes to you as an underage person?

5. Do you know that the Tobacco Administration is developing vape? Yes, you read that right. The government is thinking of ways to nationalize vape and unify it under the management of the Tobacco Bureau. Does it want to purify the market and leave minors with no way out? You are wrong. The government knows that it cannot prevent it at all, but it can still give it a try by controlling taxes and finding ways to run the state.

6. Some words for vape manufacturers. I know that there are probably more than 300 brands of vape. Next, I would like to say that I really don’t mind more practical functions or improved taste in product development, even if the price increases. Instead of using low prices to create internal wars that people can take advantage of, for example, even if Cuban cigars are more expensive, people will buy them. Even if LV is expensive, some people will buy it. Even if Rolls-Royce is expensive, some people will buy it. I think vape can also be used. Raising the price while making people willing to spend the money can also reduce the purchase rate of minors. You can still earn more. Yes, in the low-end market you will have many users and you can earn a lot, but in the high-end market you will get more high-quality customers. Earn just a lot more. But I didn’t see LV in the vape industry. I only saw that they were fighting a price war. There may be a certain brand that has done it, but I don’t know enough about it because I don’t know enough about it. I would like to say sorry here. Come on, there is a long way to go and keep at it.

7. The government should really step up its efforts to purify micro-businessmen and some counterfeit manufacturers on the market. Vape brand manufacturers also let vape prices be clearly marked. No activities, no discounts. At this price, people who should buy it will still buy it, as long as you do a good job in quality and after-sales service. The rest of the discerning people will understand. You earn what you should earn, be confident and bold. If you have seen this, thank you for taking the time to read what I said. Friends from all walks of life are also welcome to leave comments below and ask questions. If you ask more, I will update it later. The above content is only my personal opinion. If there are similarities, you can make friends. , and if you are a minor and really want to smoke, please think carefully before becoming an adult. If you want to buy when you become an adult, the merchant will welcome you. Come back and update.

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Recently, I was browsing social media videos and saw videos posted by various media saying that for the first time, officials have made it clear that vaping is not safe. Then it caused an uproar, and I really couldn’t understand it.

1. All major brand manufacturers have clearly printed labels on the outer packaging to indicate the hazards caused by the products.

2. The people are all fools. They know that there are tigers in the mountains and prefer to go there. Isn’t it just that some people buy vape and don’t buy cigarettes, which affects tax revenue.

3. The dangers of vape are reported here and their sale should be banned. Everyone knows that cigarettes are harmful, so why don’t anyone say they are banned? Is the government standing behind the cigarette factories? Can't afford it? I don't know how to find something serious to do all day long, so I just fart on the Internet. It is officially recognized that vape is less harmful than cigarettes, but why do we compare vape with air? Is vape being shut down and all people smoking cigarettes increasing the risk of lung cancer? A means of population control? Bullets fired at the enemy? There are cigarette shops all over the street. When vape was not produced and launched on the market, why was it that no one reported the cases of cigarette smoking in middle and high schools? How many adults have been smoking cigarettes since they were fifteen or sixteen years old? Why hasn't anyone checked? Is there any standardization in the tobacco industry? Is there any rectification? Are you strict with yourself? Do you need real-name authentication to buy cigarettes? Whenever there is any video news on the Internet, major media outlets will jump on it. You can’t smoke vape! It’s poisonous and harmful to your health. Maybe the editor in chief took a sip of vape when he read the article you wrote. I don’t know how to find out the facts and find out the reasons. Just follow the trend when others see it. I'm really convinced. The purpose of vape is to strengthen management and make it more standardized. Rectify the market, crack down on unscrupulous businesses that manufacture and sell counterfeit products, increase thresholds, and collect taxes. Product quality and safety are improved, this is healthy development and drives the economy. Okay, everyone who understands understands, let’s adjourn the meeting.

Interlude: Vape manufacturers and merchants all know that vape shops cannot be opened within a certain range of schools, but why are there cigarettes sold in front of the school? How come no one is investigating such a big thing that endangers the flowers of the motherland? Clean things up? How ridiculous! I came back to update. What I said below are all digressions on this issue. I saw that a new policy was issued recently, so I came back to say a few words.

There is no official information. If you are interested, it can be found on Baidu. Let me tell you something that everyone can understand.

1. Cancel open vape, that is, fill with oil, and bottled e-liquid will gradually withdraw from the market, which means that large cigarettes and small vapes filled with oil are about to usher in the cold winter.

2. The use of synthetic nicotine is prohibited. In the future, the nicotine in cigarette cartridges will be extracted from shredded tobacco. This approach does not improve the taste or make it healthier, but the policy can collect taxes from it. After all, shredded tobacco is only available in tobacco factories.

3. Subsequent production, including existing flavors, must be produced according to raw materials approved by the state. In other words, many existing fruit flavors will be discontinued, including the new product launch rate, which is expected to be reduced. It is said to prevent minors from being attracted by these dazzling fruity flavors.

4. The nicotine content in the cigarette cartridge has been reduced to 20mg, which is what everyone calls 2%. It is speculated that the manufacturer wants to reduce the cost of raw materials (after all, taxes are collected, and if the price increase is not too high, then reduce it)

5. Stores need to apply for a certificate similar to a tobacco certificate. This is a good idea and is managed by the Tobacco Bureau. However, I refuse to speculate that the price of cigarette cartridges will also be controlled. It is estimated that the number of activities of each brand will be reduced or no activities in the future. In general: This is a new challenge for existing stores, and it is also the spring of the industry. The good thing is that the product has taken root legitimately, but the bad thing is that it is not very friendly to existing smokers, and at the same time it is disguised for micro smokers. businessmen to attack. That’s all for now. If you have different opinions, please comment and update, and complain.

According to reliable information, the new policy will be officially implemented on May 1, 2022, which means that all brands of fruit flavors will be discontinued after May 1, 2022. The reason is that fruity flavor will induce non-smoking minors to buy vapes, so the new policy is here. Before this, I heard that nicotine can only be extracted from tobacco leaves, and nicotine salt is no longer used. I don’t know much about it. I understand, but I don’t know whether it’s true or not. The current situation is that the prices of fruity flavors have increased across the board, and some have even skyrocketed. I can personally understand a box of 120 for a certain time, but 150 or 188 unless you ask a peer to get it at a higher price, or the overall cost is too high. This can only be said that each has its own price. Please look at the situation and act according to your ability! But what the official said is not very convincing to me personally. Will minors not buy vapes because they don’t have fruity flavor? I don’t think so. To be honest, except for unscrupulous merchants, vape has been very strict in controlling minors. After all, if you sell it, it will be a mine. If the quantity is too large, over time, the mine may blow up and kill you.

This problem is just like when the Internet said that vape is more harmful than cigarettes and that vape should be discontinued. Don’t underage people smoke cigarettes without vaping? Therefore, the current method may be of some use to minors, or they may withdraw the explosive beads. But for existing adult users, it is indeed like being struck by lightning. As long as the two are not mixed, it is only a matter of time before you can no longer smoke cigarettes. Although the effect of quitting smoking through vape may not be very good, it is also the most acceptable method for smokers. The years of vaping have been like the four seasons of the year, spring, summer, autumn and winter. Now it is like grass under a stone. Although it is not as difficult as Tang Seng's 9981, it has also experienced ups and downs. As a user, I hope it will be better. Although China has only developed 1% of the market, I hope it can still thrive and follow the trend.

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An old smoker who has been smoking for 15 years will answer this question. Occasionally, respiratory inflammation caused a cold and fever. I didn’t smoke for three days, so I bought a small vape. The one with the highest concentration of nicotine, orange flavor. At that time, I had not smoked real cigarettes for three days, and coupled with the withdrawal reaction to nicotine, it was quite pleasant when I started smoking. A week later, I recovered from the disease. I lit up real cigarettes, but I felt choked and smelly when I smoked them. At the class reunion, I was given a real cigarette to light and couldn't smoke after two puffs. Slowly, I no longer have phlegm when I wake up in the morning, and my breathing becomes much smoother before going to bed. Overall, vape has saved me. However, the impact of vape on society is mainly on young people who have never smoked, and the learning cost is low (the taste and texture are too good). It is a life-saving straw for old smokers.

Many friends say that vape is full of chemical additives and is not as good as natural tobacco. Just listen. There is no need to explain to them how toxic the products of burning natural tobacco are. Many people are anti-intellectual.

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